非要找出意義來你們就都上當(dāng)了,這電影很顯然沒有想要表達(dá)什么中心思想——僅僅是為了好看。享受它的過程,欣賞它低成本而恰到好處的凝聚氣氛的精彩手法就好了。
不要把簡(jiǎn)單的問題復(fù)雜化。
而且這種神棍竟然宣揚(yáng)以上帝的名義殺人,我操。。。
也看過很多美國(guó)的神棍片,包括那個(gè)梅爾吉普森就是一個(gè)典型的神棍。雖然對(duì)神棍沒有好感,但是看過的神棍片畢竟還是宣揚(yáng)善的一面比較多,而且大多都是受到迫害,神仙出來救人。
而這個(gè)片子就他媽的太過分了。典型的精神妄想癥狀,一開始以為是美國(guó)那種典型的精神病片,要么分裂了,要么妄想了,結(jié)果后來發(fā)現(xiàn)是神棍,看得我一不小心被潑了一頭狗血。。。尼瑪?shù)?。?!?br>
這種片子在美國(guó)可以上映,說明美國(guó)經(jīng)常出現(xiàn)的那種殺人惡魔的現(xiàn)象是正常的。。。隨便一個(gè)腦子有點(diǎn)毛病的就可以以上帝的旨意殺人,而且還受到影片的鼓勵(lì),因?yàn)榉卜蛩鬃邮强床怀鰜淼?br>
最后的評(píng)價(jià)(因?yàn)槎拱暌蟊仨毠费揭欢ㄎ淖謹(jǐn)?shù)量,所以才有前面的廢話):去你媽的神棍?。?/div>
4 ) imdb上的兩段評(píng)論
The subtext of free will is very consciously handled in this film; in one scene, Fenton and Adam were even watching a claymation parable about it on tv. For anyone with a comparative understanding of the religion, the question of free will versus destiny is one of the major themes in Christianity. I think Frailty uses that to great effect. It does seem to come down more on the side of destiny being written and the worth of a soul being weighed out before the sins have been committed, or, at the very least, that free will exists but an omniscient God can predict the end results. Nonetheless God waits for you to commit the sins before He sends vengeance. Remember, Adam said he had to wait until God put Fenton on his list, otherwise it would have been murder.
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Yes, Fenton had the choice to murder or not to murder those people but the film makes the viewers think, ok, God tells a man to kill Demons AKA People who commit murder and destroy the innocence of children. His child, a boy who seems to think logically and seems to question his father's blind faith witnesses his father murder people because God told him too in a very grotesque fashion. Could Adam not see later on that those actions may have very much mentally harmed his brother to a point where he had murderous impulses he could possibly not control due to mental illness? Adam had faith but the film also made him appear to be impressionable at a young age and he could have grown up all his life not thinking about the trauma his more logical thinking brother (as he was portrayed )had gone through. Yes, Fenton didn't have to murder people as he has free will, but it is no doubt that the actions he witnessed as a child mentally harmed him. The film to me also seemed to have portrayed God as hypocritical. Murder is a sin yet it is ok to murder those God instructs you to murder? If those people committed those sins out of their own free will, was it right that God appoint another person to commit the murder of another human when murder itself is a sin? The film presents both the themes of free will and blind faith and handles both exceptionally well. The film really does make you think. Definitely one of my favorite horror movies.
5 ) 導(dǎo)演是為了避諱宗教狂熱者的口水吧
從片中的動(dòng)畫片看出導(dǎo)演倡導(dǎo)Free Will的意思,結(jié)局卻說小兒子的確有看到惡魔,容易讓人感覺是傳教片,整個(gè)片子就是藏頭詩
好像沒有流芳百世的藏頭詩吧
6 ) 從原點(diǎn)按時(shí)間線解析“上帝之手”
一家三口,父親和兩個(gè)兒子,父親為了讓兒子從失去母親的陰影中回到正常的生活而拼命工作養(yǎng)家教子,日子還算幸福。
一天,他們的生活發(fā)生了變化---父親在一夜晚突然跑進(jìn)兒子的房間跟兒子說,他看到了天使,告訴他這世界有惡魔,而他們一家被選中了做“上帝之手”,要去消滅惡魔。之后父親在路邊的廢屋拿到了一把斧頭和一對(duì)手套,說是上帝給他用來消滅惡魔的武器。小兒子還很小,完全信了父親說的是事實(shí),大兒子則認(rèn)為父親瘋了,這世上哪有什么惡魔和上帝,有的話那他母親怎會(huì)死?接著父親從天使那里得到了一個(gè)惡魔名單,于是他在黃頁上找那名字,并臨夜開車去把那惡魔捉了回來。但那只是一個(gè)普通的人!父親說,人樣只不過是惡魔用來迷惑人們的手段,當(dāng)他用他那“上帝之手”抓住惡魔時(shí),他看到了惡魔所做的一切。但兒子什么也看不見,父親說那太邪惡了,兒子太小,不想讓兒子看影響兒子的心智。然后他拿起斧頭把惡魔消滅了。
日子這樣重復(fù)著,每一段時(shí)間父親就捉回一個(gè)惡魔,當(dāng)著兒子的面用斧頭那它消滅,并埋在后花園里。后來大兒子反抗的情緒越來越重了,父親從天使那得到一個(gè)驚人消息,原來大兒子也是惡魔,父親認(rèn)為他只不過是不自愿幫助自己消滅惡魔的人--他的兒子而矣,只要他肯自愿幫他消滅惡魔時(shí),他的兒子是惡魔就不成立了,于是他要大兒子挖了一個(gè)坑,并在上面建了一個(gè)木屋,用坑做地下室來對(duì)惡魔行刑。不久他又捉回來一個(gè)惡魔,在地下室里他要大兒子去消滅那惡魔。當(dāng)大兒子意識(shí)到要?dú)⑷藭r(shí),他沖出了地下室,跑去報(bào)了警。因?yàn)槭切℃?zhèn),警局里只有一個(gè)老警長(zhǎng)。大兒子把他帶到地下室,卻什么也沒有,而他開始只以為這只是小孩子跟家長(zhǎng)的斗氣而矣。當(dāng)大兒子說所有的屍體都埋在后花園里,叫他去看看,這時(shí)父親被逼絕了,只好殺了警長(zhǎng)。傷心的父親因?yàn)榇髢鹤拥某鲑u第一次殺了人,他把大兒子鎖在地下室,要他向上帝祈禱,不給他食物,只叫小兒子給他一餐一杯水,直到他能見到見到上帝。
三天后,已餓到昏迷的大兒子沒我動(dòng)靜。父親把他抱出來,他慢慢的恢復(fù)了,并跟父親說,這向上帝祈禱并見到上帝了。父親很開心,大兒子不是惡魔,還同是見到上帝的人,于是他們?cè)僖黄鹱綈耗チ?。惡魔被捉了帶回到地下室,父親再次讓大兒子拿起斧頭去消滅惡魔。大兒子拿起斧頭,用力一揮,砍到父親的身上,父親倒下了。大兒子解脫,他以為“上帝之手”這就結(jié)束了。但一旁的小兒子卻撿起父親的斧頭,完成了你父親臨終時(shí)的遺愿---
多年后,又出了一個(gè)連環(huán)殺手“上帝之手”,殺人分屍,跟當(dāng)年父親的手法一樣?,F(xiàn)在大兒子再次出現(xiàn)了,他來到FBI的辦公室找“上帝之手”案的負(fù)責(zé)人,他舉報(bào)了他弟弟就是“上帝之手”。但這時(shí)弟弟已經(jīng)自殺,而他曾經(jīng)答應(yīng)過弟弟在他死后也把他埋在后花園。由于沒有證據(jù),他把他的童年發(fā)生的一切告訴了FBI,最后他帶著FBI去他父親的后花園找證據(jù)---這時(shí)真相揭曉了。。。在常人眼里看似瘋了的父親是個(gè)殺人狂宗殺狂熱者,同時(shí)還想把兒子帶上殺人的邪道,大兒子堅(jiān)持正義大義滅親,小兒子則繼承了父親的遺愿繼續(xù)殺人。---當(dāng)然,這是事情表面的常理,但絕不是真相,這部電影的耐人尋味之處就這在這里,超乎常理設(shè)定,不到最后你絕不知道事情的真相。要知道真相,自己看去吧。。
7 ) unique movie
this is ridiculous that I could find more than 100 comment on popcorn movie like kund fu panda or Narnia but there is no comment on this movie!I admit that it's not a famous movie and may be ppl can't find it easliy on dvd shop or internet but it was extremely worth a watching.
The plot fights aginst ppl 's religion,especially who believes jesus.I had to admit it's an intriguing plot,including suspense,faith,conflict and fear.nowadays hollywood script writers launch a strike for their unfair pay,but what they had wrote was full of bullshit and made us thinking about their poor intelligence.what had they wrote?My little bro's story was more interesing than their "script" After u watched this movie u will be fed up with popcorn movies or hollyshit movies.
Bill paxton is not a famous actor but I believe he is an underrated prodigy.U can sense that on this movie ,and he shows his potential on directing.Thanks to his remarkable performance,I enjoy an amazing trip while watching and look forward to his next movie.
所以他們父親的命運(yùn)也是因殺人之后而改變的么。我倒是覺得講的是因果報(bào)應(yīng)。但依靠一個(gè)凡人的手去做老天該做的事情,在道德倫理上還是接受不了。果然我只是個(gè)普通人= =
算是《處刑人》的另一面?對(duì)比著看應(yīng)該挺有意思但,我他媽還是完全不能理解你們一神教的腦回路,全他媽蛇精病啊?。。。。。。。。。?!
劇集Supernatural剛出來時(shí)我就記得以前看過講兄弟通靈獵殺惡魔附體者的片但片名演員全不記得,近期偶然看圖得解多年疑惑!重看之下真是個(gè)令人瞠目的神棍片啊信教者可歡呼上帝英明不信的也能說惡魔就是被神棍們逼出來的,而且美術(shù)攝影很精致,柔美田園風(fēng)的血腥神棍片喲
好像真的是神在引導(dǎo)他殺死那些壞人。真是殘忍,父親讓十多歲的孩子去殺人,歐美就是喜歡拍這種迷信電影
可惜我才看過《死亡區(qū)域》,主角也是能通過和別人的肢體接觸而知曉對(duì)方的過往。本來也以為上帝的旨意之類的事情太不靠譜了~
前半部所選題材很好,演得不錯(cuò),可是結(jié)局居然把明明荒謬的東西變成了真理,滑稽!什么狗屁神不神的,如果真有一個(gè)這樣的上帝指使大家殺人,那就讓他去地獄好了!看到最后才發(fā)現(xiàn)這就是個(gè)無聊的傳教片,宣傳的還是中世紀(jì)那一套東西。最讓我不能接受的是讓兩個(gè)小孩子來演這種片子!
真的不喜歡,剛開始看還以為是那種變態(tài)殺人,誰知道后面就是說男主角的的確確看到了上帝的召喚,對(duì)于生在無神論的馬克思主義的社會(huì)主義中國(guó),唉,這樣子的神諭真的接受不了呀!
前面一大部分的講述還是有點(diǎn)吸引人,蠻精彩的,但由于前面的懸念比較好,顯得后面的解釋跟神婆說書一樣了,有點(diǎn)弱。不過總體還是可以的,宗教片,各有各的解釋咯。
與一般的宗教片不同 這個(gè)片子并沒有給宗教冠上好名或惡名 替上帝斬除惡魔的行為即使被展現(xiàn)得不可理喻又塑造得仿佛冥冥之中有所指引 與其討論故事到底想把觀眾引向相信或不相信上帝 不如把這片子當(dāng)一個(gè)連環(huán)殺手的劇情片 看起來會(huì)更有趣
劇情感覺硬傷許多,而且這個(gè)結(jié)局也太好猜了……
失分在于謀殺FBI警探時(shí),報(bào)應(yīng)閃回的設(shè)計(jì)做得太實(shí),一切都應(yīng)該處理成羅生門式的敘事,才會(huì)具有真正的沖擊力和張力。真把上帝處理為一個(gè)私刑策劃人,就索然無味,而且淪為了某種邪教。
Frailty.2001.BD.MiniSD-TLF
真相大白了前邊營(yíng)造的緊張懸疑氣氛就泄了 大哥 你到底是變態(tài)殺人狂啊還是神棍?。?/p>
瘋父殺人史+犯罪少年成長(zhǎng)史, 結(jié)尾的兄弟身份反轉(zhuǎn)很容易猜到, 關(guān)於上帝的看似自相矛盾的的價(jià)值觀, 其實(shí)是種變相質(zhì)疑吧, 不過影片在這方面表現(xiàn)的又模棱兩可, 迷失在懸疑犯罪片的驚悚情節(jié)中. 但作為後者來說, 這部電影也算個(gè)小驚喜了.
only christians will be easy to understand and ponder about this movie
差點(diǎn)被搞混淆了 不過喜歡這片子 何況還有我的小帥哥啊~~~
神棍上道了,神棍得手了,神棍升仙了,神棍繼承了,神棍替天行道了,神棍居然還理直氣壯了!
有這么完美的天時(shí)地利,任何人都能成為殺人狂魔
忽略這狗屁的劇情,驚悚還是有的
故事看似穩(wěn)扎穩(wěn)打,但是細(xì)想就會(huì)發(fā)現(xiàn)整個(gè)形式非常多此一舉,而回憶講述的部分確實(shí)過于冗長(zhǎng)了,結(jié)尾的反轉(zhuǎn)也完全在意料之中。